Varmint shooting and competitive target shooting are very different in the their effects on barrel life. Heat and pressure are the main two perpetrators that shorten barrel life. The result, typically, is rather short barrel life, sometimes less than 1500 rounds. The core rule to extend barrel life is to not shoot it fast and hot. These chamberings pump a lot of powder through a small bore. That might affect your choice. The .308 Winchester barrel has a longer lifespan. LRI is proud to offer our premium match grade, cut rifled stainless steel barrel blanks for the Ruger Precision Rifle. Target loads? So your question is posed backwards. The 6.5 Grendel is much lighter, more efficient with a bit longer barrel life. 6.5 Grendel is more than adequate and a pleasure to shoot, however it does not compare to my LR-308 slinging 178gr ELD-X’s with their .278 (G7) BC @ 2640 fps. Among my many rifle buddies (including a few who have replaced barrels on bolt action rifles) none have done so because the barrel was "shot out" at varmints. How many rounds can you shoot at a time before you have to worry about throat erosion in your rifle bore? You are highly unlikely to ever reach the end of a single barrel unless you are doing something horribly wrong with your maintenance. The .308 entered the scene in 1952 as a military service cartridge. .243 barrel life is determined by the barrel. When you think about it that makes sense, this is were all the heat and pressure is at its most fierce. You can always double check to confirm barrel wear, and the need for replacement, with a bore scope. Rodent control work is another shooting chore that can easily overheat barrels, especially with … If you still feel you are qualified to post in those subforums, please contact "Shane Tuttle" (the mod for that portion of TFL) via Private Message for assistance. I seem to recall reading (on the GAPrecision site?) ... which is one reason moderate volume cartridges like 308 Win. Even though the cartridges share the same roots, there is a pretty big difference in the ballistics of each cartridge that reflects the different priorities wildcatters had when designing the .243 and 7mm-08. Simply put, burning the same amount of powder in a smaller space will result in shorter barrel life. The .308 entered the scene in 1952 as a military service cartridge. The core rule to extend barrel life is to not shoot it fast and hot. Let the barrels heat up too much on these rifles, especially a small caliber such as a .22-250 and .243, and you can ruin a throat in less than 1k rounds (if not 5-750 rounds). I’ll also explain what causes barrel wear and if there is anything you can do to prolong the life of your favorite rifle’s barrel. What I am saying here is that barrel life, just like acceptable barrel accuracy, is subjective. .243 barrel life is as long as any other popular rifle (30-06, .270, etc). A lack of cleaning can indeed damage a barrel over time. If you are a TFL member and can access TFL, please do not use this link; instead, use the forums (like Questions, Suggestions, and Tech Support) or PM an appropriate mod or admin. Barrel life is the downside of both the .243 AI and standard .243. Maybe a 200 or 208? This begs the question, just how many rounds does it take to lower the accuracy of a barrel? If you load light and fast with faster(?) The real barrel burners are the magnums, cartridges designed to propel a projectile as fast as possible from a given bore size. If your shooting required shooting over a sustained period of time (varmint hunting maybe) then it really might be worth considering a bull barrel or some other method of reducing heat soak. The table above shows your barrel cost per shot, based on various "useful lives." Infinite barrel life. I purchased both of my 243's used, both have had a lot of rounds through them, and are still under moa. My current favorite varmint load consists of a dose of IMR4350 and 87grn V-MAX. Was it a windy day? The newer steels hold up well to the cartridge and they are no longer a "barrel burner". You should be able to expect the same life from the barrel as the 243. This one can go either way. If you are shooting enough for barrel life to be an issue, you will almost certainly see it coming. But I like .308 better "When a strong man, fully armed, guards his house, his possessions are safe." So what can you do to prolong the life of your barrel? Assuming you treat them the same, a .308 Winchester should last longer than a 7mm-08 Remington, which should last longer than a .243 Winchester. All 4 rifles are capable of shooting good groups and, in general, the 20" 243s perform about like any other 243 and the 20" 308s perform about like any other 308. Worked very well with Smith & Wesson M&P 10. This is the section immediately forward of the action, before the projectile reaches the rifling. .243 Nosler 105gr BC .571 Muzzle FPS 2846 Tansonic 1359 at 1100 yd total drop 383 inches. Barrel life is the downside of both the .243 AI and standard .243. That exact moment will differ from purpose to purpose, and shooter to shooter. The .243 Win is a necked down version of the .308 Win and was introduced to the shooting world in 1955. My Rem 700 varmint rig is in that ballpark and it hasn't shown any signs at all of groups opening up. If you are experiencing difficulties posting in the Buy/Sell/Trade subforums of TFL, please read the "sticky" announcement threads at the top of the applicable subforum. How often do you practice? Brass is cheaper for 308 . Maybe a 200 or 208? Just like over cleaning or poor cleaning can damage or wear out a barrel, so can no cleaning at all. Have a Winchester in 243 that my father hunted with from at lest the mid 50's, now I have it and hunt and just shoot for fun with it and have not had any problems. If you have a firearm related question, please register and post it on the forums. The Creedmoor case is a bit shorter than 243 - you can load heavier bullets seated longer with the Creedmoor case and still fit in a 308 magazine. The 25-06 is a better cartridge than the 243. A .243 can travel quite far and this rifle proves that it can be done so long as you sight in the scope properly. In conclusion, we are sure that the 6.5 Creedmoor vs. .308 Winchester debate is not going to go away any time soon. I am here to tell you that is not true what so ever. April 18, 2015 at 12:43 am. vs. .30-06 Springfield Three of the most revered deer-hunting rounds in a head-to-head-to-head comparison By Ron Spomer Erosion from bullet friction alone is minimal as suggested by the longer barrel life of “mild” cartridges like 30-30 Winchester, 22 Hornet, and especially 22 rimfire. If you don’t care why, just know that barrels shooting slower rounds at lower pressures last much longer than those shooting the barrel burning magnum and varmint cartridges. Are you, as the shooter, doing your part? Big game hunters should consider the .308 Winchester. Something overbite cartridges have going for them is this kind of versatility. You will find retained energy is better than the creed at point blank ranges and that the point blank ranges of … Barrel life for the 6.5CM is around 2000-3000. No magic bullet there (pun intended) Case life on the Swede is phenomenal with the old low pressure loads. If I'd been better doping the wind back then, I would have shot more good scores with it. Of those options, I'd go .300, but then again, I shoot ELR, and hunt. It was the wildcatters who brought it back to life by fiddling with a couple of popular designs. I like the idea of heavy .223 bullets in a 1/7 twist barrel (I have one, its fun). I had a .308 that I had several thousand rounds through and it was still very accurate to the day I sold it. The .243 is often referred to as the baby brother of the .308 Win. For barrel life, 308 for the win. George Gardner said he had 2,300rds down the tube of his 6mm creedmoore in a GAP 10 it's still shooting lights out on the hide. In order to understand the history of the .243 you also need to understand the history of the .308, because again, the .243 is simply a necked down .308. The barrel life of the 308 is more durable than that of the 300. If you plan to use it for game such as antelope or deer, the 243 is the minimum legal in many states. The table above shows your barrel cost per shot, based on various "useful lives." Shoot less powerful cartridges. The expense for shorter barrels in any chambering is velocity. Match barrel throats wear out the same amount dimensionally per shot as hunting, sporter or plinker barrels. Charles Rains. A shooter at the pointy end of the competition may well consider anything over .5 moa as past its prime. They're all made with the same steel. Winchester rolled the .243 out as a commercial cartridge in 1955. I myself use a .204 Ruger and love the thing, but these speedy rounds do come with consequences and shortened barrel life is a reality. very accurate and will take woodchucks as far as conditions will allow. The typical barrel length for a repeating hunting rifle chambered for high intensity cartridges, such as the .243, .260, .270, 7mm-08, .308, or .30-06, is 22-24 inches. The .308 Winchester barrel has a longer lifespan. You aren’t impressing anyone (probably). Context is everything. My current favorite 243 is a Remington 700 parts gun that features a 700 ADL action, 700 BDL/SPS bottom metal, and a 24" stainless SPS barrel all bedded in a McM Remington 7 style stock. Erosion from bullet friction alone is minimal as suggested by the longer barrel life of “mild” cartridges like 30-30 Winchester, 22 Hornet, and especially 22 rimfire. That would be a barrel burner. Heat soak is when the barrel is hot all the way through and the extra mass of a bull barrel means you can shoot more before this happens. In an attempt to find the better of 6.5 Grendel vs .243, I tried out both rounds and conducted an analysis of its user’s feedback. You should not expect to much at … that people are getting 2500-3000 rounds from 6mm Creedmoor barrels, while 800-1500 or so seems to be the expected life of a 243 AI barrel. If you are going to be shooting long range when you are hunting , this difference is going to weigh in. But to top-ranked competitors whose rifles shoot test groups into 1/4 MOA at 100 and 200 yards, 1/3 at 300 1/2 at 600 and 3/4 MOA at 1000 and they are able to see when accuracy opens up to a fourth to a third larger when they compete with them, that's not good 'cause they know their scores will suffer if they don't rebarrel right away. If the consistent accuracy requirement of an operator is no longer met, the barrel can fairly easily be renewed. Why is it one minute of angle at which we say a barrel has had its day? A lot of wear that is imparted on the life of a bbl depends on it's diet. I'll also explain what causes barrel wear, ... a .308 Winchester should last longer than a 7mm-08 Remington, which should last longer than a .243 Winchester. The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare .243 Winchester vs .30-06 Springfield ammo rounds. And match barrels heat up the same way as all the others. and 6.5 Creedmoor are popular target cartridges. You should replace your barrel when the barrel no longer provides the accuracy that you require from the rifle. Remember though that the extra mass also retains heat longer and so not only do you have a heavy barrel to carry around, but you have to wait longer for it to cool down too. 308 vs 6.5 Creedmoor Barrel Life. This email link is to reach site administrators for assistance, if you cannot access TFL via other means. Any cartridge will "burn out" a barrel if you help it along with a little abuse. If your barrel loses accuracy at the 1500-round mark, then it only worked for three seconds! By comparison, the fastest heavy bullet .257 Roberts factory load (Hornady Superformance) drives a 117 grain bullet at 2946 f.p.s. These are useful all-around barrel … It is easy to fire-form, and commercial dies are readily available. Probably double the life of the creed. Not in the least bit, not for the type of shooting we do. vs. .243 Win. In this article I will discuss what barrel life means to the everyday shooter and how you will know when your barrel is on it’s last legs. Worst 243 story I know was a guy who was cranking 55gr bullets up to 4000fps and then plugging and soaking the barrel overnight to get the copper out. How ’bout try longer ELD than the 178 in the 308. Don’t think for a second that I blame you, It is a ton of fun to shoot these cartridges! So it should not be too terrible. The typical barrel length for a repeating hunting rifle chambered for high intensity cartridges, such as the .243, .260, .270, 7mm-08, .308, or .30-06, is 22-24 inches. For a precision shooter this ‘poor’ level of accuracy is simply not acceptable and would be an indication that a barrel change is eminent. Typically it is the throat of the barrel that wears out. The 25-06 is a better cartridge than the 243. Please note, the following information reflects the estimated average ballistics for each caliber and does not pertain to a particular manufacturer, bullet weight, Mar 28, 2012 #4 Interesting article here on overbore cartridges, the theory is that the ratio of case size to bore can be used to determine thoat erosion and barrel ware. A deformity here can greatly affect accuracy and is a simpler fix than replacing the barrel. MV (24 inch barrel). Keep the barrel cool, and you can expect a barrel to give sufficient accuracy out to 4k+ rounds. Barrel life numbers depends on one thing; when the owner notices accuracy dropping off to an unacceptable level. Is there any damage to the muzzle crown? Surprisingly though I have seen more barrel damage caused by over enthusiastic cleaning or poor cleaning technique than I have by neglect. Even though it is a win for the .308. Winchester rolled the .243 out as a commercial cartridge in 1955. Mag. Barrel life won't get short until you get over 3100 fps mv or so. If you're just punching paper, the .260 is probably a … Not much of a differences to see in terms of performances only in numbers. Lots of people think they are an accurate shooter but shooting is a perishable skill. I imagine 3000 on a regular basis maybe more with modifications. I am a bit particular for a hunter, I require my bolt action hunting rifles to be at least 1.5 minute of angle. It uses a shorter case than the .243 Winchester—1.920-inch vs. 2.045 inches—allowing for a longer bullet length outside the case in the same length magazine, and maintains the 6.5 Creedmoor’s 30-degree shoulder. I figure most short life barrels were abused. Winchester introduced the cartridge to the civilian market shortly thereafter in the Model 70 bolt action and the Model 88 lever action. A 6.5-284 barrel can last 1,300+ rounds, but it might need replacement after 1,000 rounds or less. I gathered the few variations between these two rounds, and I must admit that most of these variations all pointed back to one element, which is the design of their body and finishing. The .243 Winchester was developed by wildcatters who immediately grasped the accuracy potential of the .308 parent case and then necked down the case to accept .243 caliber (6mm) bullets. The 6.5 Creedmoor has less recoil. 243 will be 4 dollars ahundred cheaper to load than the 308 useing a sierra gameking as a bullet choice. In this article I will discuss what barrel life means to the everyday shooter, and how you will know when your barrel is worn out. It is at this smooth transition, between the chamber and the rifling, that the barrel degrades and we see a decline in accuracy. Whitetail Deer Cartridge Shoot-Out: .30-30 Win. The two I have burned lasted 2700 and 2950. The .22-250 that was shot out before at 2000 rounds should be on the money for at least 3000 rounds.” If you take good care of it, you should get plenty of use out of your barrel. The combination of higher speeds and a smaller bore does not augur well and eventually, the 6.5 Creedmoor will have a shorter lifespan than a comparable barrel in .308. Today, the .308 Winchester round is enormously popular throughout the world and rifles chambered for it can also chamber and fire the 7.62x51mm, but not the other way around. The result, typically, is rather short barrel life, sometimes less than 1500 rounds. 308 vs 6.5 Creedmoor Barrel Life. Good tip A. Just what is acceptable accuracy differs markedly between shooters. The newer steels hold up well to the cartridge and they are no longer a "barrel burner". Depending on your skills, you may still need to see a gunsmith if this is the issue. The .243 Winchester is simply the .308 Winchester necked down to hold .243″ diameter bullets. The .308—a fine design in and of itself—has been responsible for a number of successful cartridges, but the .243 has to be the most successful. Simply put, burning the same amount of powder in a smaller space will result in shorter barrel life. Between us we have to have at lest 2500 rounds through it. Of course, if you are shooting a “long-lived” .308 Win that goes 5000 rounds before losing accuracy, then you get a whopping TEN seconds of barrel life. Ask around at your club to borrow one or see your gunsmith or local firearm store. If you are a hunter, you really don’t need to worry about barrel life. The .220 Swift is a round that puts much more pressure on a barrel then the humble old .308 (one of the reasons why .308 is so great). The .243 can shoot flat and good in the wind shooting faster and cutting flight time. 6.5 Nosler 140gr BC .658 Muzzle FPS 2598 Transonic 1352 at 1100 yd total drop 429 inches. All of our RPR replacement barrels are fitted and chambered using our carefully developed process on state-of-the-art cnc turning centers. ... a .308 Winchester should last longer than a 7mm-08 Remington, which should last longer than a .243 Winchester. Going back to the .308 for example, the military M118LR cartridge would normally send a 175gr projectile downrange at approximately 2700 feet-per-second (fps) from a 24-inch barrel, but only 2600 fps from a 20-inch barrel or even 2450 fps out of a 16-inch barrel. ... which is one reason moderate volume cartridges like 308 Win. I'm sure you wouldnt go wrong with a quality rifle. coyota1, I know those numbers look low (and therefore pessimistic) to lots of folks. Varmint shooting and competitive target shooting are very different in the their effects on barrel life. A 6.5-284 barrel can last 1,300+ rounds, but it might need replacement after 1,000 rounds or less. The speed and power of the .308 make … Actually clean your rifle. In reality the damage caused by cleaning is overstated by some authors, but I have seen it happen. It is easy to fire-form, and commercial dies are readily available. Is the scope mounted securely and sighted in correctly? Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: The Art of the Rifle: Bolt, Lever, and Pump Action, http://www.riflebarrels.com/faq_lilj...rrels.htm#Life, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiegZyhd5l0, http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubb...94#Post2686494, http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubb...56#Post2653056. I was thinking somebody you talked to was referring to the 243 wssm. Let your barrel cool down between shots. Well, Forum member MikeCr has developed an Excel spreadsheet that accounts for a number of variables, and gives a pretty good estimate of useful barrel life, whether you’re shooting a … A good bit downward in pressure to avoid burning the leade at some minimum amount. While the two cartridges have a very similar case capacity, throat erosion occurs faster with the 6.5 Creedmoor because it uses a smaller diameter barrel. On the other hand, a hunter may consider even a 3 minute of angle rifle as accurate enough for the purpose. Only once you have considered the ‘easy’ fixes, should you look at replacing the barrel. Everyone wants to think you are going to shoot a 6.5mm cartridge and get .308 Winchester barrel life. The truth is people don’t treat their rifles the same. In this article I will discuss what barrel life means to the everyday shooter, and how you will know when your barrel is worn out. With cast boolits a factor of 10. The 6BR I would think would have better barrel life than a 243, but I haven't shot out a 6BR yet! There are so many variables other than cartridge that contribute to wear and so it is difficult to answer this question based on cartridge alone. How ’bout try longer ELD than the 178 in the 308. Using the TMS bullets as prescribed should extend the life of a barrel by at least one third. The 6XC has roughly 25% more barrel life than a 243 … will we be able to improve that another 25% or even more in the future? Before you get too excited about changing a barrel, you have to consider if there isn’t some other aspect negatively affecting accuracy. At long distances, the 6.5 Creedmoor is far superior. Basically, the .308 Winchester round is simply a civilian version of the 7.62x51mm NATO round, which was originally developed for the M14 rifle. While the two cartridges have a very similar case capacity, throat erosion occurs faster with the 6.5 Creedmoor because it uses a smaller diameter barrel. Barrel Life. Some precision shooters make claims to barrel life can be a difference. 260 rem is a better distance cartridge and a little easier on barrel life (can neck up all of your .243 brass also). As far as being bad on barrels, when they were first introduced, the steel wasnt as high of quality as they are now. With cast boolits a factor of 10. Is there a more reliable way to predict barrel life — one that will work for a broad range of calibers? The .308 shoots flatter, hits harder, and bucks the wind better.. Extension fit very snug into receiver witch is a good thing. A 6BR barrel should give 2,200-3,000 rounds of accurate life, and a .308 Win barrel could remain competitive for 4,000 rounds or more. Ordered stainless steel barrel, 30 caliber chambered in 308 Win., 18'' barrel length with mid length gas system, cryogenics and RCA bolt carrier group. These are "drop in" replacements with no additional machine work required. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. Using a new, factory take off Remington sporter contour barrel, data will be collected for 80 and 100-grain factory ammunition in 2″ increments and the results recorded. You should be able to expect the same life from the barrel as the 243. Both cartridges were introduced in the 1950s. I shot one from 2004-2008 in matches before I started shooting the 6.5 Creedmoor in 2008 but I still have a .243 in my safe and use it occasionally. Rob01 I dunno, that seems like a mighty low number to me. Wouldn’t that be awesome? Poor cleaning practices can reduce the life of a barrel. I've always figured to load my hunting loads to max pressure with acceptable accuracy. In fact my rifles are still much more accurate than required, even after many hundreds (and in some cases thousands) of rounds. The .308—a fine design in and of itself—has been responsible for a number of successful cartridges, but the .243 has to be the most successful. But then again, I launch 55 & 58gr bullets just under 3800fps with Ramshot Big Game powder- if your sources are correct, my bbl should have been toast many moons ago. I'll also explain what causes barrel wear, and how to prolong the life of your barrel. However the arguments for 308 Winchester would be. Let’s forget about that obvious fact for a second and ask the question, just how quickly will the average barrel degrade? goosebrown. At long distances, the 6.5 Creedmoor is far superior. Even if you are camped on a prairie dog town, you are very unlikely to shoot as many rounds as fast as in target competition. I gathered the few variations between these two rounds, and I must admit that most of these variations all pointed back to one element, which is the design of their body and finishing. Re: .243 vs 6.5x55 The Swedes had it figured out from the start in the late 1800s. Such emails will be ignored. For example, the 6.5 barrel life is in the 2500-3000FPS range and the .243 is usually under 2000FPS. Chambered in 243 Winchester and manufactured from 416R Stainless Steel, this 1 in 8" twist, heavy contour barrel gives you high quality at a great value. I want a 6.5-284 with 308 barrel life! Those .308 Win. Even though both remained shooting sub MOA the velocity dropped by more than 100 fps from one day to another. The 243 Winchester’s 6mm (.243″) bullet offers reduced recoil and the ability to use lighter, faster bullets for varmints and small game, while heavier, 100 grain loads can be used to harvest deer. .243 is flatter shooting, but barrel life is less than half of that of the .308. I'd say .308 even though my first gun ever was a winchester .243 given to me by my grandpa about 4 years ago, and I do love to shoot it. It was the wildcatters who brought it back to life by fiddling with a couple of popular designs. 243 vs 7mm-08 vs 308 Ballistics. Another factor is how well you clean your rifles barrel. This email contact address is not an "Ask the Firearms Expert" service. I understand that some folks use lighter bullets in the .243 and that's fine, but I've never found a load that works, but I admit that I didn't try real hard to nail down a light bullet load in that rifle. However, the difference is not so significant and there will not be a ridiculous overbore. Rings can loosen up with repetitive recoil and heat cycles over time. 243 vs 7mm-08 vs 308 Ballistics. A friend of mine had a .220 Swift barrel that didn’t even make it to 2000 rounds. Probably double the life of the creed. (22 inch barrel). What’s not to love. Location: Between Dallas and Shreveport, LA, "The higher the velocity, the shorter the barrel life.". Snow has found this extends brass life, … Based on the ubiquitous 308 Winchester, the 243 Winchester has developed a strong following among rifleman. Winchester introduced the cartridge to the civilian market shortly thereafter in the Model 70 bolt action and the Model 88 lever action. You can find tons of .243 brass for relatively cheap with decades of loading experience available. If you are a target or precision shooter though you will almost certainly see the end of a few barrels. In conclusion, we are sure that the 6.5 Creedmoor vs. .308 Winchester debate … In case you are unfamiliar with these cartridges they are all based on the same .308 Winchester case, with the smaller bores obviously being higher pressure and faster shooting rounds. So one thing that could improve would be to make the eye relief a little more generous for users. Were you on a stable bench? I wasn’t overly subtle in the paragraph above. These chamberings pump a lot of powder through a small bore. At this point we would say that it has reached the end of its barrel life. and 6.5 Creedmoor are popular target cartridges. 's barrel life is exactly correct. (I have had excellent luck with other bbl manufactures as well, but have settled in on Bartlien barrels) 42gr … So a .243 Winchester round exits the barrel with kinetic energy equal to the energy required for linear vertical displacement of 1950 pounds through a one foot distance, while a .30-06 Springfield round exiting the barrel has energy equal to the amount required to … Using a bore guide can reduce the damage caused by a vigorous clean by ensuring the cleaning rod is perfectly aligned with the bore.. If you shoot a rifle over and over, for thousands of rounds, you WILL wear out that rifle’s barrel. The 6.5 Creedmoor has less recoil. I'd say .308 even though my first gun ever was a winchester .243 given to me by my grandpa about 4 years ago, and I do love to shoot it. While it looks like a good caliber, I'm not seeing a reason to move from .243 for performance or longevity. You will find retained energy is better than the creed at point blank ranges and that the point blank ranges of each will be much closer together. This is when a re-loader chases accuracy in a degrading barrel by seating a bullet further out of the case, reducing the jump to the degraded lands. Even “shot-out” barrels in an infamous barrel burner like the 220 Swift are usually in excellent condition at the cooler muzzle end. test barrels fired 4 to 8 times a minute got the same barrel life as his match rifles in .308 Win. The .243 Winchester is simply the .308 Winchester necked down to hold .243″ diameter bullets. The .243 Winchester was developed by wildcatters who immediately grasped the accuracy potential of the .308 parent case and then necked down the case to accept .243 caliber (6mm) bullets. fired 1 shot per minute; about 3000 rounds. Mine lasted 640 rounds in long range matches. Barrels are expensive and should only be replaced when necessary. 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